This I Believe….Continued

“Half the lies they tell about me aren’t true.” These words from the  confusing Yogi Berra made me laugh.

I began this blog to correct some misstatements made about my theological beliefs.  The misstatements were made in public – at a Sunday morning gathering of people whom I love and have led for several years.  I truly believe that those who know me know the truth about me.  So, maybe these posts are unnecessary.  I don’t know.  We see what we want to see. We believe what we want to believe.

Maybe these posts are my attempts to restore a reputation that I feel has been marred. Honestly, there’s a bit of that in here – maybe a lot.  I have more than once prayed David’s prayer recorded in Psalm 43:1, “Declare me innocent, O God! Defend me against these ungodly people.  Rescue me from these unjust liars.”  Sounds harsh.  David was pretty honest.  I don’t believe the “misstatements” came out of “ungodly” hearts – I can’t judge someone’s heart.  I just know that the statements are gross (Look it up in a thesaurus – not just “yucky” but “glaring”) misrepresentations of my beliefs.

Maybe these posts are opportunities for dialogue.  But let’s not limit the questions, the doubts, the discussion to a web page.  Why can’t the gathering of people that is often called a church be a place for this dialogue?  Let’s talk here.  But let’s create “church” to be a safe place for dialogue.

Have you ever been “misrepresented”?  How did you handle it?
What would you like to discuss but have never felt “safe” to bring up?

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37 thoughts on “This I Believe….Continued

  1. I love you blogs. As you remember our first encounters, I sat down with you and talked about certain things that I had “heard” and you, many years ago, eased my questions and opened your heart to us. I have never met a more “godly” heart. Thank you.

  2. This is a first for me! Blogging…there is hope! I am not a dinosaur! This I believe…We must first put our faith in God, not man. When we chose to follow man, we will be so disappointed. I believe that a few people at a very dear place, Fellowship Bible Church, made a decision to make drastic changes. These changes should not have been made without open dialogue with all people involved! A church isn’t just edlers and a pastor. It is a real group of people who gain knowledge and support for their journey with our amazing Savior. People who rely on the foundation of a church, faces, and names no elder knows, but that in no ways dimishes what their need is! Shame shame shame on anyone of you who didn’t remember those nameless people who are now struggling to find a place where God really is first!

  3. Well said Leslie! I can tell you that I’ve never been more engaged during a church service than I was when Phillip was preaching. My husband has said the same. I was so sad the day Phillip left Fellowship. However, the Lord works in mysterious ways and I am so excited to attend this new church and find a wonderful church family. Thank you Phillip for being such a blessing to my little family!

  4. We moved here from Texas in 2008 and happened upon Fellowship. We were thrilled to find an open atmosphere where we felt we could ask questions. You have always spoke from your heart and scripture and brought before us your own questions, struggles, etc. you encouraged us to really dig in and find those answers through God’s word and prayer. I’ve been struggling with what has happened at Fellowship these last several months…my heart just continued to hurt. It just didn’t feel right. I reached out to a friend and asked if she had heard if you we’re starting a new church. She sent me the email yesterday! I was so excited to get it and read about your plans and your blog. How exciting that God has opened this door for you! It might not have happened the way you expected….but I know He has great plans for you…and we will all benefit from that! I will keep you daily in my prayers! ~Lori

  5. Hello Phillip, this is Jasmine Allen. I use to go to Fellowship. I attend High Street now. I spoke with one of the pastors that has a similar style to yours.His explanation of the sepetation had nothing to do with your theological beliefs. You can hear the Gospel anywhere, but it is how the message is delievered. I like how personal and real you are while incorporating scripture. You bring people closer to christ.

    • Hi Jasmine. Thanks for reading and responding. The comments in these posts are in response to the theological reasons given to the church upon the day that my departure was announced. Yes, there were also some philosophical differences that led us to this point, but theology was a big one – as has been communicated. The great thing is that Fellowship is a great church. The elders released me to be able to start another church in keeping with the philosophy that God has given me. I’m trusting God that it too will be a great church.
      Let’s always “keep it real.

  6. Phillip, I would love to be part of the start of your new church in whatever capacity. I was a Stephens Minister at Fellowship but would be willing to get plugged in wherever you could use me:)

  7. I guess after the announcement that you would no longer be at Fellowship most of us were in shock. I believe, as you do, that God needs you to begin another great church. One where you ARE allowed to keep it real. The unique style you have of making Gods word so real and easy to understand is what brought many of us to want the relationship and journey we now have. I would describe Fellowship to friends as being like going from a King James Bible to reading NIV. I should have said “listening to Phillip teach is like…”. I am very excited about the future and can’t wait for the begining of a new and improved journey of growing and learning in my relationship with Christ!!

  8. Always take the high road Phillip. People who know you seem to know the truth about your dedication to the Gospel and growing true Jesus followers. Fellowship is a building. Your new place will be a building. Church is wherever people are gathered together to grow.

    From reading the comments on your blog, it looks like your spiritual leadership has earned you the respect of many. If they are truly growing in their walk with Jesus, there really is nothing to handle. Just do what you do every day and it will handle itself. From hearing you speak and reading your words, I’d imagine you’re above all this gossip and bureaucracy anyway.

    We visit from TN a few times a year, and will find you, where ever you land, on our next visit. Peace.

  9. Phillip,
    I think that most of us can definitely identify with being misrepresented. I will just say this: those that know you best, I mean really know your heart, will love and follow you no matter what. Those that misrepresented you had NO right to do so and that, as well as the past several months was handled very inappropriately. The short time that I have known you, I have come to know an extremely gifted spiritual leader. You are the first pastor that I can identify with, understand, follow, and feel like I am home. I love you as a pastor, a man, a wonderful husband to Denise, your infectious smile, and a friend. I can’t wait tp see what god has in store for you!

  10. Phillip, I am grateful for your blogs. Whether you write them for us or for you, I, for one, have appreciated them for several reasons. I had become concerned when I heard about your belief changes. This information caused me to begin to doubt my own intelligence, discernment and faith.
    After reading your blogs, I have been pleased to find that you had been “grossly misrepresented” (I have always loved your word usage!) It was good to know that yes, you were the same Phillip we had learned so much from for the past three years. I was also glad to find that my own interpretations were not lacking in intelligence and proper discernment.
    As in all things, there is much to learn from the unpleasant situations we find in our lives. As we move on toward the future, positive things are beginning to come to the surface. At the Birthday Party I saw enthusiasm, trust, and energy, replacing the confusion, loneliness and feelings of deception. Personally, this situation has created lots of discussions between Joe and me. We have been forced to question, to study and to learn. I think both as individuals and as a couple we are stronger and more grounded because of this. I’m sure we aren’t the only family that has had many philosophical discussions in the past few months. Obviously the Wrights have been philosophical fanatics as well! (Yes I chose fanatic to go with philosophical on purpose…I first spelled it phanatic…but chickened out on that one!)
    Joe and I look forward to the new church that is being created. It feels good to have a plan being formed! You remain in our prayers…Melissa

  11. Unlike all the educated and loving people who have responded to your blogs, I don’t write long and beautiful paragraphs about what’s in my heart or how I feel about happenings within the church….or who’s on first. But this I know….. one of the questions I have asked many times in the past was “how in the world did he get THAT out of the verse we just read?” Now I know…it’s WASN’T what was just read, it was an interpretation of what was just read……..and now I know I’m not ignorant OR crazy!! lol You have answered a life-long question that has weighed heavy on my heart forever..well, not forever, but for 62 years. I can remember questioning my parents when I was just 5 years old….I can also remember never getting an answer. I am thankful that God finally saw fit to send a person like you to “set me straight”. Keep up the good work…..it appears that you are an answer to many people’s prayers.

  12. Misrepresented? Me? It completely changed my life and in hindsight, mostly for the better. Sometimes we put too much stock in what other people think about us.

    Let me share something that a great person shared with me when I was worried about what other people thought of me (paraphrased)…your wife knows you, your kids know you,and most importantly God knows you…when people see that those who love you deeply admire you, then maybe they will realize that they don’t really know you-Denise Wright to me in 2004.

  13. Yes, I can relate to being misrepresented. But the peace and confidence comes in knowing God knows the truth and one day I will stand before him and give an account of my life, words, actions. If I am innocent I have nothing to fear and do not need to justify myself. If I am not, I then need to ask God for the courage to admit it and change.

  14. I was asking for guidance on what was the truth was about Philip’s departure from Fellowship. I got my answer in a chance encounter at lunch the other day. I saw Philip sitting at a table having lunch with another man. I didn’t want to be rude and interrupt but it just so happened Philip went for a refill on his drink and I was able to say HI. I wish I had said more than. Philip has always been a teacher not a preacher. I want a teacher, I want someone who will challenge me to find my own answers as no one has them all. I am looking forward to attending this new church with Philip and others!

  15. Hi Phillip, In 1995 I was asked to leave a church that I dearly loved! me! Me! ME! can you imagine! (Tongue in cheek.) I was crushed! My very soul was under attack. And even worse my family and those who loved me suffered with me and for me. I ran to the book of Nehemiah. I have no idea how many times I read that book. It was so healing and instructive. Nehemiah’s cry became mine. Lord keep me on the wall! Do not let “this letter” or the things that are said about me keep me from being obedient to You or to sin against You!

    God was so faithful to me! In 1996 I was asked to become the Children’s Pastor at a great church and the journey for me and my loved ones was far greater than I could ever imagine. I never tried to defend myself, I let God worry about that.

    Now as I look back I can see where God was trying to move me for several years. But “I” loved where I was serving! I loved the people and I did not listen to what God wanted me to do in the next step of my journey. I learned to make sure that my love was totally on Him and whatever He wanted me to do. Great churches and awesome people become the added blessing.

    I am praying for you and Denise. God has freed you for the next chapter. Get out your pen and let God write through you an awesome new book. Love you! Marie

  16. I am a Christ-follower. I have been for years. And have also attended Fellowship for many recent years, including many with you as lead pastor. I also whole-heartedly share the sentiment of asking questions, which on several occasions lead me to disagree with various points you’d make during the sermon on sunday mornings. This is okay, God gave us brains to think, and quite frankly I think He’s generally happy when we question things because it gives Him further opportunity to unfold His kingdom and truth to us. This never caused me to question your faith or my own. We’d just disagree if it came to it.

    However, I was at Fellowship the Sunday the elders came forward and explained how everything had fallen out. Perhaps I was at the wrong service, but I don’t remember the elders misstating your theological beliefs. In fact, frustratingly enough, they didn’t call out what the differences were between the Fellowship statement of belief and what you believe. This is why this blog is coming in handy. Again, maybe I was at the wrong service.

    Did you listen to a podcast of it that’s readily available, because I’d rather not assume anything either. This can easily turn to gossip and one group vilifying the other, which is for certain a tactic Satan loves to use to divide the Church.

    • Michael —

      Just for context, I’m one of the 3 elders who chose to resign as elders of Fellowship as part of this process because of our disagreements with the remaining 6 elders on these matters and the approach taken. Statements about agreement amongst all of the elders regarding Phillip that made it seem like the process was 9-0 voting amongst the elders did not properly represent that there was actually a 6-3 split on the entire matter amongst the elders the entire time.

      To my knowledge, there is no recording publicly available on the podcast of the Sunday morning announcement. The podcast of that day cuts off before the announcement. I understand that several people in the crowd that day recorded the announcement on their iPhones, and I have heard one of those recordings. I don’t know which service that recording is from. In that recording, the specifics stated to the crowd about Philip’s theology were that:
      – Phillip has made statements that we cannot base our faith on the Scriptures as a whole and that the only thing we can truly believe in is the four gospels.
      – Phillip has made statements that the God of the New Testament is different from the God of the Old Testament.

      Those allegations were sweeping and broad brush and misrepresent Phillip’s views, when in fact, no true in-depth discussion of these issues or Phillip’s theological positions on these matters took place between the elder body and Phillip prior to the separation.

      Also, emails went out from church leadership responding to questions from people in the church asking questions after the announcement, and those email responses included specific statements of Phillip’s theological beliefs that were broad brush statements that did not accurately represent Phillip’s positions. Those statements said that Phillip:
      – no longer believes in the sovereignty of God
      – doesn’t believe God is unchanging and has been the same past, present and future
      – no longer believes that the Bible is the inspired and infallible word of God.

      On that Sunday and over the next several days, statements like these were made, and I found them hurtful because they were not a true representation of the complex issues at hand. Over the next week or so thereafter, I even heard speculation from people outside the Fellowship circles that restated these statements as if they were true. Much gossip about Phillip and what he believes began that morning from what was communicated, and from what I can tell at this point, Phillip is doing his best, both privately in conversations with individuals and publicly through this blog, to correct the misrepresentations about him and what he believes.

      I’m glad you’re reading the blog because it’s directly from Phillip, and you can work through these issues and questions as you work through his posts and study the Scriptures yourself on these matters.

      • Indeed, it seems like an exceedingly complex issue. I don’t envy anyone who was in a leadership role when it all went down. And I genuinely respect this complexity as I sift through all of this from both accounts, because honestly what I’ve witnessed is misrepresentations being lobbed from both sides (not necessarily directly from the eldership or from Phillip, but from both camps claiming to have heard or seen something firsthand that is refuted by the other) and that makes me sad.

        I personally have curiosity about the unfolding of events and the truth behind the rift, but I doubt anyone will ever get to see the whole truth this side of Heaven. Luckily, I’m actually more interested in Phillip’s and Fellowship’s core beliefs and reasoning. Seems to be more constructive in the long run.

        I can only pray that God will be glorified and the Gospel furthered from both sides of the split.

      • I can state as well that a meeting was held between some of the elders and small group leaders the morning that the announcement was made during this same service. Phillip speaks the truth in the charges against him, and we were witnesses to it.

        We (my husband and I) walked out of the meeting with a lot of questions. Was this the pastor we sat under for so long? Was he just fooling us by stating one thing while believing another? Over the course of the next 24-48 hours we reviewed the comments made by the elders during this meeting. As we examined sermon after sermon, along with conversations we have had with Denise, we had grave doubts about their assertions.

        This led to the realization that a number of vital things stated in that meeting simply were not true. I will add as a final note that people present for that meeting asked what the differences were from 8:00 a.m. to 8:40 a.m. I know this because a) I was one of many people who asked this fundamental question, and b) when an elder in the back of the room finally answered the question I looked to the clock. I wondered why a board of elders would part with their senior pastor and seemingly were unwilling to answer the very question you have asked.

        The handling of the situation led to months of gossip and speculation about Phillip. None of the comments or scenarios we heard have proven to be true. This is the perspective of two people who were witness to that conversation.

      • I wanted to follow up on one other issue that has come to light and is apparently still lingering — the question of whether Phillip actually cooperated in the process and whether he actively pursued a positive resolution in the Fellowship situation. I don’t mean to open what to some would be “old wounds”, but from what I’m hearing, questions are still, to this day, being presented to Phillip and Denise based on that Sunday morning announcement and conversations thereafter. Apparently, there is the idea out there that Phillip was making demands, maybe even acting out of a rebellious or prideful spirit, toward the elders in his final days at Fellowship and was not cooperative. I can attest that such was not the case, and I will try to explain. Bear with me – this is fact-intensive, so it may be long.

        Some underlying internal struggles over theology and leadership had been simmering for a few years prior to the parting of ways, and several attempts to talk through those and resolve them had been attempted at the staff level and elder level over time, and each attempt seemed to succeed for a while. After the Equip weekend in September, some staff members approached some elders about concerns with Phillip. Instead of engaging Phillip at that time to bring the staff and Phillip together and try to reconcile any differences on the spot, it seems that those elders then privately met and determined to place Phillip on the sabbatical. A handful of elders, including me, were not involved in those discussions. To this day, I’m not sure which staff members were involved in that conversation, and last I knew, no one had disclosed to Phillip who had concerns with him or what those specific concerns were.

        By the time the remaining elders and I caught wind of this, it was a little too late. Phillip had been placed on sabbatical indefinitely (we were told that the sabbatical would continue through at least the end of the year) and the church staff had been informed. I first heard of all of this directly from Phillip after he’d already been placed on leave. I didn’t hear about it directly from an elder until several hours later although it had been brewing for a few days.

        The entire group of elders then met the next day and had an intense meeting with two staff members present, and despite much pressure to the contrary, we elders who weren’t in attendance at that first meeting, while agreeing that Phillip needed rest after leading the church for 20 years, argued that the reasons, the timing, and the process were not ideal. Because the situation had already been escalated by the failure of process, we ultimately all compromised in our respective positions, with their allowing Phillip to speak the next Sunday before going on sabbatical and our allowing the sabbatical to continue forward. In that meeting, the elders began a list of expectations that Phillip needed to meet before he was allowed to actively step back into his role of pastor.

        More than two months passed with very little headway between the elders in any unanimous agreement on the issues at hand. During that time, at the direction of the elders, Phillip had met with spiritual mentors, had met with the leaders of the elder team on a couple of occasions (and other elders on an individual basis) and had pursued a relationship with a well-respected pastor in Kansas City who offers personal support and pastoral care to pastors and Christians in all walks of life.

        Phillip re-entered the conversation in a mediation in northwest Arkansas in early December. This was the first chance he’d had to speak to the elders as a whole group. The stated agenda of that meeting was for the elders to bring their expectations to Phillip and Phillip to bring his expectations, if any, to the group. When we arrived, the mediators had a whole other process for us to go through, and that took several hours but clarified the basic broadbrush ideas in the room regarding this moment in Fellowship history. When the question of expectations came up, the mediators asked Phillip to go first. Phillip acknowledged that we had differing views on direction and purpose of Fellowship (but he felt the two concepts could coexist in one church), that we had some differing theological views (that were not as far apart as they seemed and could be reconciled) and that it was clear that some healing needed to take place between he and the staff members who had concern with him after the Equip weekend (although they were still not named). He acknowledged that if the differences were too substantial and agreement couldn’t be reached as to a middle ground where all could stand, either he or they would probably need to leave because it was obvious that the conflict was real. He approached this conversation with hope and stated his desire of reconciliation on all of these matters and with all parties involved. At that meeting, we ran out of time, and the elders’ prepared list of expectations of Phillip was never really laid out or covered.

        The next week, the elders held their first regular meeting with Phillip involved. From my perspective, Phillip came to that meeting with a heart of humility and with a desire to resolve the differences, and he started the meeting with a clear and heartfelt statement to that effect. He then started to open the discussion on the theological matters in question, and the voting elders determined that there would not be discussion of Fellowship’s statement of beliefs. Phillip pressed the issue, speaking to confusion that had arisen about the multiple understandings of the words “error free” (or “inerrant”). He stated the desire to clear up that confusion and wanted to discuss better ways to describe that concept. Other than some cursory discussion, they were not willing to discuss the substance of the theological issues. (I’d even brought a clarifying edit of my own, but there was never opportunity to work through it.)

        Some of the elders expressed frustration that Phillip hadn’t sought reconciliation with the staff and teaching team during his sabbatical. I found that very confusing and so did he. He noted that names were never disclosed to him as to who had any concerns with him. He also talked through the underlying notion that reconciliation would occur as part of his coming back and that we’d just entered that process. I agreed with his assessment of the expectations to date, but several elders were still frustrated at him for not actively pursuing reconciliation. He didn’t understand that expectation when he hadn’t been told who he should approach.

        At that elders meeting, it also became clear that Phillip desired to continue the path that Fellowship had pursued for several years — creating a church that reaches out to the unchurched and dechurched, meets them where they are and points them to Christ in our Sunday morning services and our weekly lives — while the voting elders desired to build a church that trains Christian to be leaders to send out into the community. While these two visions of church are not that far apart, it was far enough apart that the voting elders did not see that their vision met with Phillip’s. Honestly, the tone of that meeting was one in which it seemed like the elders wanted to convince Phillip that he just couldn’t come back even if he wanted to and no matter how hard he tried. By the end of that meeting, they had openly voiced their desire to part ways.

        I write all this to say: on that Sunday morning, it was announced that “We realized that in order to unite [with Phillip] in our direction and our statement of faith, 3 things had to occur: 1) we had to be willing to alter a portion of our statement of faith 2) we had to be willing to change a large portion of our current staff, and 3) we would have to be willing to change the direction of the church and our overall Fellowship model, and we were not willing to do that.” There may be a way to interpret those two discussions with Phillip to come up with those 3 points, but I don’t find that to be an accurate interpretation of the events I witnessed and the conversations in which I participated.

        I lay all of these background facts out so you can see that this is nowhere as clean-cut as it was made out to be. And, in my opinion, as a participant in those group conversations, Phillip approached both conversations from a place of humility and desire for reconciliation with all parties involved in hopes of bringing everyone back together. Phillip cooperated with the elders’ stated wishes throughout the whole process, and it really was his goal throughout to step back into his role at Fellowship and lead that church forward. Sadly, that ultimately didn’t happen, but God can use it as He does all things.

  17. The only comment I feel that I can make is this : “I MISS PHILIP!!” I miss his services, I miss how he makes me feel, when I walk out the door. I miss all of his teachings. No matter what part of the bible he is addressing. I am praying that he can find a spot if even temporary and get us back to hearing what he has to say>>

  18. So now that we all agree that Phillip is missed, was misinterpreted, and needs to start anew in a church of God’s and his choice–where is he going to preach? Does he have a church in mind? If so, where is it?

    • For updates, have people contact Joan Whitaker at joanwhitaker@417mag.com or have them check out facebook or my blog to sign up for updates. Paulette – send your name, phone and email address to the above to get updates about the new church!

  19. John, Thank you! Thank you for finally explaining what is going on. We have been going to Fellowship for 12 years. We knew something was not right and started asking why Phillip was not preaching as much. Thought we were just missing him on our out-of-town weekends visiting grown children and grand children. We were given evasive answers.
    Even after attending the “Birthday Party” we still didn’t know what had happened. Phillip handled his words in a very loving and Christian way as you would only expect from him. So this is so good to finally have answers. Have just felt lost and wondering for so long. Again, thank you for the explanation.
    Bill and Carol Phillips

  20. What a sad commentary.

    But this whole thing makes me laugh for it is a perfect example of why the Evangelical Church is in trouble. As a former Evangelical who left the church nearly two decades ago for similar situations and because church doctrine as a whole is based on contradictions, I can say that reconciliation in this case was never really possible because nobody involved has identified the problem. And, as everyone should be aware, if one is unable to identify a problem, one can certainly never solve it. The problem certainly was not a pastor who thought asking questions about confusing texts of scripture might be the right course to pursue. If anything, the church needs a whole lot more of this, certainly not less. For any doubting Thomas, I offer the words of Charles Hodge:

    “Theologians are not infallible in their interpretations of scripture. It may therefore, happen in the future, that interpretations of the Bible, long confidently received, must be modified or abandoned, to bring revelation into true meaning of what God teaches in his works. This change of view as to the true meaning of the Bible may be a painful trial for the church, but it does not in the least impair the authority of the scripture, they remain infallible; we are merely convicted of having been mistaken in their meaning.”

    Charles Hodge, Systematic Theology, 3 vols (1873, reprint, Grand Rapids, Mich, Erdmans. 1981)
    If you don’t know who Charles Hodge is, look him up.

    The point being, all Church doctrine is interpretation. Theological theories. Nothing more and nothing less. Many of them contradict reality because theologians do not take the right approach in interpreting scripture. Consequently most people are busy trying to twist reality to fit what they think scripture means rather than understand what scripture means because they know how the world really works.

    This is why the church today looks as it does. Since the reformation, the church has fractured, and fractured, and fractured, and fractured. And once again, here is another fracture. Why? This is a question that bears much consideration.

    There is a problem. With the information age, knowledge is exponentially increasing. What this means is that all our pet doctrines which are untrue are going to be exposed for what they are. And if we are to be personally prepared for what is coming, we must be willing to follow the Spirit of Truth whether so ever He leads.

    Yours in Christ,

    M.A.H.

  21. How I came across this page is an interesting story…

    My wife used to attend Fellowship Bible Church, but had left some years ago. When we were dating and first got married, however, the one bright spot about the church, she used to say, was Phillip, his skill at speaking, and how he made his sermons come alive. At the time she was attending the church for her daughter’s sake, but left when her daughter no longer wanted to attend. The reasons her daughter no longer wanted to attend is another story, but one the church should be interested in, because when she didn’t show up for an extended period of time, the church completely failed to express either interest or concern. Consequently, they lost a young person who was before this point, completely committed to the church and its mission, as she was very involved in the Sunday school and teaching the children..

    Recently, a friend my wife has at work was church shopping, and mentioned that she had recently visited a church called “The Venue” but didn’t really “connect” with what was going on there. My wife, in an effort to help, told her about the pastor Phillip at Fellowship Bible Church, thinking that maybe she would find what she was looking for there. To make a long story short, when they had hashed the whole thing out, they realized the pastor her friend had heard speak at “The Venue” and the pastor Phillip at “Fellowship Bible Church” were one and the same.

    After hearing this story, I asked my wife to look Phillip up, and take a look at his story. Not surprising, his story is the age old story. In fact, I told my wife what his story would be before she ever looked it up and got it right with very little deviation from the events. How would it be possible for an outsider to do this?

    Obviously, the approach the church is presently taking toward the “Unity Of The Faith” needs some serious scrutiny.

    My comments are offered for your education and edification and no other reason.

    Delete them if you wish.

    Yours in Christ,

    M.A.H.

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